I am absolutely, totally and completely opposed to any attempt to audit the vote count in any state from the 2016 General Election that chose Donald J. Trump 45th President of the United States instead of Hillary Clinton. It doesn’t matter that Clinton’s vote tally is now 2 million more than Trump’s. It doesn’t matter if the difference reaches 3 million, 5 million or 10 million votes. There is a principle involved here. We don’t elect our Presidents by popular vote. We choose them in the Electoral College at the state level and Clinton lost.
There will be no abolition of the Electoral College because it’s very difficult to alter the Constitution to accomplish that. The Founding Fathers designed the Constitution to make that sort of thing extraordinarily hard to do. Also, you should forget about trying to change state laws that govern how their electors are chosen. It’s far, far too late for that now. And by the way, you can’t rely on “faithless electors” changing the result and you really shouldn’t. This is how we choose our Presidents and Democrats, I’m sorry but you lost. As appalling and frightening as his administration may turn out to be, this country earned and deserves this President.
If you don’t like President-elect Trump, consider that an estimated 41.6% of eligible voters did not cast a ballot in 2016. That’s 96,421,324 people who simply decided not to vote. That means nearly 1/3 of you didn’t care enough on November 8, 2016 to make your voice heard. Why are people in support of some stupid idea made by a bunch of idiot election lawyers and egghead computer geeks that is 100% doomed to fail? If you think you may have made a mistake by not voting and are traumatized that Trump and his jolly pirate crew are going to be calling all the shots for the next 4 years, well…you should have thought of that 2 weeks ago.
And by the way, why would a politician with the long experience and savvy of Mrs. Clinton subject herself to an even more humiliating loss than we, the voters of the United States, gave her earlier this month? I urge her to stay out of politics and reject this call for a recount. The American people clearly do not want her in public office and I implore those behind this ridiculous notion to stop trying to find magic tricks that will upend the election process so you can put her in the White House.
I know this all sounds terribly harsh. Well, it is. I’m no fan of Trump either but I know when I’ve been beat. I ask that the great masses of broken-hearted progressives out there who still can’t believe it to please stop this madness. If you don’t like your new Republican national government, fine. Whine and complain about them about them to your heart’s content. Whatever. But if you don’t vote, don’t expect some legal or technological miracle to save you post-election. Focus on 2018 when the entire House of Representatives is on the ballot and most of the Senate. Concentrate on getting your local GOP statehouses and governors flipped from red to blue. Oh, you say Democrats can’t win the House because of gerrymandering? You say the Democrats have 23 seats to defend in 2018 to the Republicans 8? Well, Donald Trump was supposed to get crushed in this election. The Senate was supposed to go blue and even the House was supposed to be in play. Since when are we going to believe anything Nate Silver has to say anymore?
Look, it’s this simple. If you really and truly believe that “I wasn’t given any real choice” so you stayed at home instead, then may I suggest you and your fine sensibilities move to Russia? I can guarantee that you won’t ever have to worry about what your vote means or doesn’t mean there. One-way flights from New York to Moscow on good, reputable airlines start as low as $399.
Agreed! What is done, is done. Donald Trump will be the next president of the United States. If Clinton thought she had a good chance at changing that, wouldn’t she be the one leading the revolt? Frankly, at this point, reversing the outcome would do far more damage to the country and its institutions than Trump could ever do.
Your energy will be better spent calling your Congressmen and giving them your opinion.
Find out who they are here: http://calltrumpout.com/
Find out what’s going on in Congress here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/174f0WBSVNSdcQ5_S6rWPGB3pNCsruyyM_ZRQ6QUhGmo/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true and here: http://www.house.gov/legislative/
Learn how to effectively lobby them (from a former staffer): http://theslot.jezebel.com/how-to-effectively-lobby-your-congressperson-1788958124
I think you are exactly right no need. The Dems lost get over it and strategise for 2018 and 2020. If you did not vote SHAME ON YOU!! If this BS artist turns out to be a decent President then good for the country if not wel i know i did not vote for him and i can feel good about that. Stop Whining and get to work on how to defeat these people the next go round
I ‘hear’ what you’ve said – and, for the most part, I agree. Trump is NOT *my* president and he never will be. He is the epitome of every sleazy man who has ever sexually harassed or groped any woman ever! BT! THIS woman won!
However, the forefathers made the Electoral College and the Faithless to uphold it. It clearly states that NO one without experience could be elected.
Trump has NO experience working for anyone. He has no experience volunteering for anyone running for or in office. He has no experience working in civil service of any kind. He has no experience working as a volunteer for any charitable institution of any kind anywhere.
So, that means that the Faithless CAN overturn the states that allow by law that decision and if the rules apply.
Personally, I am disgusted by citizens who did not at least register to vote.
BUT, if Ivanka Trump forgot to vote — what makes anyone think that the average citizens would have to vote!!
She even stated at the RNC that she was ‘neither a Republican or a Democrat’ — and so SHE, the daughter he lusts after, did NOT VOTE for her father or for Mrs. Clinton.
In 4 years, when all of the people see and feel the horrors of what Trump and his cronies all do to us and our country, MAYBE they will register to vote and get to the polling booths in 4 years!!
Meanwhile, I’m trying to calm down and not be scared out of my wits that that poor excuse for a real man will send his Brown Shirt squad to get me and remove me from the planet.
I agree with you completely. I think trying to change the result somehow is just a futile waste of energy. While I can understand the regret of those who either didn’t vote or wish they had voted differently (for the record I did not vote because as a Green Card holder I am not eligible) what is done is done and we have to accept the democratic result and move forwards. I do think there has to be a robust investigation into the “influence” Russia had on the election but more from a security and protection perspective rather than to alter the result. I think instead of trying to wish away the result, people need to invest their energies into ensuring that the Trump administration and other elected officials do not get to roll back decades of progress with regressive and restrictive legislation and furthermore press those in power to ensure that Trump is held accountable for his potential (and fairly inevitable) conflicts of interest. People need to remember that this is representational politics and these elected officials are supposed to represent us and work for us and legislate for us and stand accountable to us. We are, therefore, in the positions of power and we need to exercise that power – always through peaceful and legal means – instead of wasting time and energy wishing our future was different.